Alan Kay, Super Hero

Rick DeNatale — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:03:00 -0500

Via Boing-Boing, Business week has just put a comic strip on their web site, which tells the story of how Alan Kay, inspired by a visit to Seymour Papert seeded the idea of portable computers.

Long term readers of this blog no doubt know that I hold Alan Kay in high regard. I got to meet him several times, first I think at an internal IBM conference on Object Oriented Programming in the mid 1980s, Another time was at a Digitalk developers conference, where I obtained a prize possession. At the time I was the IBM technical liaison with Digitalk. They released a new version of Smalltalk/V PM at this particular conference, and I was presented a copy of the supplemental manual for the release signed by all of the Digitalk developers, and also by Alan Kay, who wrote something like “to the most non-IBM like IBMer I’ve ever met.”

Reading the business week strip, I was reminded of an even earlier personal connection with Kay and Smalltalk. A year or so before I really got into Objects, I was working on IBM Mainframe software in Poughkeepsie, NY. One summer the project got an intern, named Radia Perlman, who was in graduate school at M.I.T. And is now known as the “mother of the internet” for her invention of spanning-tree protocol. It was only later that I learned that she was one of Papert’s students working on Logo and seeing how kids learned programming with Logo, and if I recall correctly she also visited Xerox PARC, and was involved in porting the concept of the Logo turtle model of graphics to Smalltalk, where it became the Pen object.

What a long strange trip it is!

Alan Kay on the meaning of OOP

Rick DeNatale — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:39:00 -0500

I've written before in this blog about how the meaning of the term "object-oriented programming" got hijacked from it's original meaning. For example I go into this in some length in my mini-memoirs.

I recently ran into an interesting site with links to "Classical Computer Science Texts", which in turn led me to this e-mail exchange with Alan Kay on the meaning of OOP from July of 2003.

This exchange gives support, with details, for my description of Kay's concept of what Object-Oriented Programming was supposed to mean.

I'm not against types, but I don't know of any type systems that aren't a complete pain, so I still like dynamic typing.
- Alan Kay

As Kay explains, the key concepts came from biological cell communications modeled as networked "whole computers" and a desire to "get rid of with data"

As for the influence of Simula on Smalltalk's notion of classes and inheritance:

I didn't like the way Simula I or Simula 67 did inheritance (though I thought Nygaard and Dahl were just tremendous thinkers and designers). So I decided to leave out inheritance as a built-in feature until I understood it better. - Alan Kay

And summing it up:

OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. It can be done in Smalltalk and in LISP. There are possibly other systems in which this is possible, but I'm not aware of them.

I'd argue that you can do this in Ruby as well. I don't know if Ruby was on Kay's radar in mid-2003.

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Alan Kay, Super Hero

Alan Kay on the meaning of OOP